Tuesday, October 30, 2012

The Female Mustache


Every once in a while I meet a girl who is cute, aside from a noticeable dusting of hair on her upper lip. Usually it isn't visible from several yards away (i.e. visible enough to prevent an approach or introduction), but can be seen clearly at conversational distance. What usually follows in these situations is a brief conversation, the earliest possible (and polite) exit, and then a comment between me and any other male I am with - out of earshot, of course:

"Dude, did you see that??"

"What, the hair? Yeah man, what a shame. She was cute otherwise, and pretty cool too, but that shit was creepy."

I've always been shocked that girls don't do something about it on their own initiative. It occurred to me that they might not realize it is unattractive - or maybe that they don't think it is noticeable. So if you have more hair than the average girl, get rid of it. I am not entirely sure what the best methods are, but it needs to be taken care of: wax it, get it removed by laser, or at very least, bleach it.

Below is a picture that illustrates the upper limit of what is acceptable. If you have less lip hair than this, you can probably get away with it unnoticed. If you have this much hair or more, take care of it.


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  1. I think girls who have this know they have it and don't care what others think. More women need to have this characteristic. It's not my personal style, but I admire anyone who is confident enough to show it and not care if anyone thinks it's unsightly. If someone doesn't like it, they can look away.

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    1. That's fine, I am just saying that men don't like it. So IF you are trying to attract men, ditch the 'stache.

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    2. Oh. You mean to attract shallow asshole men? Yeah. Because that's what you sound like. With this said, I'm sure your body is flawless and your balls smell like a fresh ocean breeze.

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    3. Ha! Yes, yes they do smell like fresh ocean breeze.

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    4. While we're on etiquette, I once broke up with a guy who has residual toilet paper in his ass, which I fortunately noticed before having sex with him. That doesn't make me shallow.

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    5. A moustache on a girl as "personal style"? Lol that's like a guy sporting breasts as a personal style, right?

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    6. Hi Andrew,

      You really don't know what all men prefer. Each man is different. Apparently, you haven't heard of hirsute worship. It exists.

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    7. I completely agree that women need to take care of the mustache quickly and get rid of it!!! But also I think some women probably just didn't realize it was that noticeable!!!

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    8. Guys, the dude is just trying to give you the truth that other people won't tell you. Maybe some people are wondering if guys notice or what not.
      It's like if you want to ask someone to tell you honestly if you look good in something, etc...
      Harsh truths.

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    9. Diego and Trotsky seemed to think Frida Khalo was beautiful and she had a unibrow, moustache, armpit hair, gank teeth, and a messed up back. By the way I think she was beautiful too. ; )

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    10. Plus, how difficult is it really to wax your damn mustache? To walk to the store, buy some wax strips, and perform the waxing totals 20 minutes at most. Double task and get the strips while shopping for other things and we are talking about 4 minutes of your life here. What are you really losing about yourself if you do? It sounds like you are projecting your very identity onto that strip of hair, which is a bit odd. Moreover, for someone so concerned with finding a man who isn't concerned about superficial things, you sure seem to place a lot of importance in the superficial yourself.

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    11. Many women cant help having what you call a 'mustache' for most it is just a genetic trait from their family members. I knew this girl who was half Gujarati (indian) she had a slight bit of upper lip hair and was always picked on but look at her now she is a model and really pretty

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    12. It isn't hard to get rid of it.
      But is y'all get married and get comfortable around each other, she'll probably ease up on the shaving. Then after years of maintaining it, it will grow back ten fold lol.
      It's the maintenance that's the pain in the ass.

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  2. I used to want to bleach my peach fuzz but my mom used to be vehemently opposed to it, saying that I was being ridiculous. Thanks to your post, I'll shell out $5 and get it threaded (least painful way of hair removal)

    Andrew, what do you think about sideburns? On one hand, they narrow my face (which would otherwise look round) but I'm now wondering if there is something masculine about the side-burn.

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    1. As long as they aren't stiff like male whiskers, I think they CAN work, but I am sure that in some cases they look bad too. It really depends.

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    2. Rule thumb on the 'female sideburns' - except on women certain ethnicities with very corse hair, they will in NO WAY be stiff/whiskers like a man's beard hair. In fact, if anything, this area of hair on women (like hair at the nape of the neck) will be finer than the rest of their hair.

      It's perfectly feminine to have a hairline nest to the ear that dips down the the hollow under your cheekbone. If the hair is creeping down to earlobe, or god forbid jawline, then it needs to be waxed to keep it the hollow of the cheekbone. This is the part that makes narrows your face anyway, any hair growing lower than that looks like a werewolf.

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    3. perhaps that will be your own preferences in finding a girl because your just focusing on the physical attributes :-) I have also a facial hair, though my friends noticed it, I don't care because this is a gift. Girls that are not contented to their physical traits will just end to frustration.

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  3. Facial hair is a masculine trait even though many females have a little and some have more than a little. Therefore its a big turn off for men, until we see Vs models with moustaches this won't change.Electrolysis is good if you have a little and laser is better if you have more.

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    1. Just think about itMarch 31, 2015 at 12:23 PM

      If it's a masculine trait...how come you guys won't let your beards grow? Trying to look female?
      If you did let them grow...would it still look male to you,if they got a little facial hair, but much less then yours?
      Almost looks like guys feel beaten by women with a little facial hair, because their own facial areas are more female (according to their definition) and hairless...heehee.

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  4. Thank goodness I found this post! Otherwise I would have totally missed out on attracting the shallowest men in the universe! However, I usually find that men's eyes are so drawn to my massive shelf, that they're completely incapable of looking at my face :)

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    1. Well, at least you have that going for you...


      This is basic grooming, people. If you want to make sure you are not attracting a "shallow" man, I am sure you must also be dressing to minimize you "shelf" (such a LOVELY term, BTW), not wearing make up, and likely own no mirrors.

      Let us know how that works out for you

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    2. Sarah, don't be such an idiot.

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    3. hate to break it to ya, but yes, men are superficial. Us women are too. Regarding the 'stache, I was fourteen with a nice one, and a guy told me "get rid of the 'stache" It was the most embarassing thing ever, but I did and I had a boyfriend soon. The way the world goes round...

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  5. Women; if you have a mustache, beard unibrow WAX IT OFF. Do not bleach it, because all it looks like is that you still have a mustache it is now just blonde or a strange orangish color. If you have more facial hair than a guy he will notice you but not in a good way. Also you are probably insecure about your abundance of facial hair and therefore are lacking confidence. By removing your mustache you will feel better about yourself exude confidence, which will help not only attracting a guy but being confident is a positive in every arena of life. So if you are looking in the mirror and not sure if you need to wax or not...the fact that you are questioning it probably means its time to make an appointment. Why cover your beautiful face with hair.

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    1. Personally I recommend threading over waxing for removing facial hair. Waxing pulls on the entire strip of skin, whereas threading pulls only the hair. Let's try not to apply that much blunt force to our facial skin, because that's how wrinkles develop.

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    2. your such a stupid narcissistic bitch. there are girls out here who want to wax there facial hair but cant beacuse of things like hair growing back more, wrinkles, or accidental burns resulting in darkness on the upper lip

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  6. I have black hair with somewhat light skin, so when the hair grows, it shows. When I didn't have time to get threading done at a salon, I looked like a dude. Then I found a device that I can use at home to achieve the same result. Go to amazon and search for R.E.M. spring facial hair remover. It works great. I use it consistently and no longer have to worry about facial hair.

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  7. the tone of this article is really gross, i've had several boyfriends who don't mind hair. i'm european and my body hair is very dark and very thick, and i spend literally 40+ mins in the bath JUST shaving my legs and pubes. every boyfriend i've had has been really sympathetic and not minded if i've been a little hairy. removing a moustache is really painful, and honestly if i remove my moustache it's for ME, not for any guys that might make fun of me. if you make fun of girls for having moustaches then honestly grow up.

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    1. Fuck you! Its not disgusting at all! All women have to go through it!

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    2. If you have that amount of body hair, you should find a different way of dealing with it.
      I'm fair skinned with light hairs and I still take care of ALL the hair on my body (even on my face although they're barely visible - when you put makeup on is when they show).

      I've done laser hair removal on my bikini area and armpits and I do hair removal cream on my face. I used the hair removal cream once a week, ten minutes each time and it's not expensive either.
      I have sensitive skin so if I can find products that work for me, anyone can.
      Laser hair removal only works on darker hairs, otherwise I would have done legs too. If you have dark body hair you are "lucky" in the sense that it can be permanently removed. It's probably one of the most important investments you can make. 40+ mins every day is ridiculous.

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  8. Let's face it, if she has an obvious moustache when she's twenty, by the time she's fifty she'll probably have given up on other methods of hair removal and be shaving every day. If you can't face shaving with her, then she's not for you.

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  9. I know my tiny 'stache is unattractive (not the big blue one, that's purely ornamental), so I try my best to pluck it away. And it takes so much time to shave my legs, pits, and groom the fun zone. And pluck the little stray hairs here and there. Shape my eyebrows. Nose hairs. Everything everywhere on a woman. It's enough that at 34 I'm heartbroken hearing just how much this shit matters. I'm not arguing or denying it, but that doesn't make me feel any less like a cracked vase on display. Which I am.

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    1. oh wow, please don't feel like that!! everybody has this stuff, and listen, it sucks for everyone! Nobody likes iy but it is actually just like grass... you want it pretty, keep grooming !!! You will be fine, please don't be upset !!!

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    2. this is just one dude's page to talk about whatever.. including making 'rules' of styling for women, which are his opinion. there are guys out there that are cool and chill and don't give a shit about a girls stache, as long as you're equally cool with some chest, maybe back hair. we're all freakin human, let's get over it.

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  10. Laser hair removal method has gained so much popularity due to its time saving and precision factor. I personally feel that this is an effective method if proper advises are taken laser hair removal.

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  11. All this hair-hate needs to stop. Ladies, if you are fortunate enough to be able to grow a moustache/beard, keep it and be proud of it! And go to the doctor's and get checked out for PCOS. But mostly be proud of what you have!

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  12. This Andrew guy is trying to be an expert about female mustache, skin, hair, etc. etc.
    This man is 28 yr. old when he started this blog? What the hell does this guy know about love, hair, skin and so on. All he knows is what shallow guys like him/his age find unaatractive about the opposite sex.

    These shallow men are quick to point out what's wrong with a girl unaware of their own flaws. They probably did not notice they have a steering wheel burn on their beer belly.

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    1. "All he knows is what shallow guys like him/his age find unaatractive about the opposite sex."

      I take issue with the claim that this is "all" that I know, but I'll agree it is somewhat shallow. The point, however, is that whether you like it or not, this is how men think, and you can either lash out at it by attacking the credibility of the messenger, or you can learn from it.

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  13. I do not understand why some women are arguing with the author of this post. I am a female and I can say that female mustache is unattractive (in fact, it looks awful).
    As for 'shallowness' of Andrew, I can only say that the very fact that he is shallow and cynical makes his posts even more valuable for women. He clearly states what puts him off in women and he clearly states what makes him to respect some women (for example, those women who are not chasing men, etc.). If such a cynical guy has respect for some women, than you better listen to what he is saying and behave accordingly and then your type of behaviour/looks will have even greater effect on less cynical men. As for me I want to know how the men think and that is why it is useful to read articles written by men.

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  14. What is beautiful and attractive is just something made up by culture. As of now in the prevalent culture female facial hair is looked down on and seen as unattractive. This has also spread (though less severe) to leg hair , pubic hair and underpit hair. I personally don't shave my pits or my pubes . I don't understand a man's obsession with having a women completely be the opposite- I guess it is tied into sexual preference and any slight hair means resemblance to a man and oh I must run away. Keep in mind in some cultures they stretch their necks, bind their feet, and other things we would consider dire and crazy for beauty.

    Also remember that at one time it was fashionable for men to go around in big powdery wigs - obviously that was considered the attractive and respectable thing to do. LOL. Fashion is very fickle.

    HOwever, the obsession with smooth is deep rooted. it is to the point that in any pictures pores are swept away and so are any wrinkles, even perfectly normal body wrinkles. It is reminiscent of old classical paintings where they idolized the idea of Greek marble and its smooth perfection.

    I know this is just a guy giving advice on what most men don't like and do like I just like to think about these things.

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    1. What you talking bout Willis? You gotta do the pits at least..and trim the pubes! Aye. ...to each his own I guess. I wouldn't say fashion is very fickle. A lot of it has to do w natural selection and developments that are improvements. Bras might not have been used back in the day, but today they serve a practical and important purpose, that for some women relates to health. Poofy wigs weren't just a fashion statement for men. Binding feet and stretching feet also don't seem to relate to fashion, per se.

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  15. I'm sorry, its not shallow if you meet someone who has facial hair that is very visible that would alter her appearence even a little. Especially if she starts resembling her male family members. And to say a man is shallow because of this is a bit hypocritical since women are very critical of peoples appearence even their own sex. Now, who is the shallow race!? Everyone could be considered shallow but I call it preference. Now with myself I hate when women too much makeup. Every woman I have been in a relationship with seems I have met them when the did not look there best, meaning they had very little makeup, if any. I want too be attracted to you. I have seen makeup change someones appearence to the point where you would look like two different people. If I love the way you look without mskeup just imagine when you doll yourself up. Lots of fun and games. Lol. Why do women have to put face changing makeup? I don't look at the top shelf first but instead I look at your eyes and if I fall in, watch out. Lol. Then I will check out your butt, as I hold the door for you and you walk by, so don't look back for a bit. Lol. Men have become used to women taking care of any facial hair so please don't stop. First impressions are very important.

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  16. If I shave my "stache"should I just completely go crazy and shave my eyebrows and head too?? Bald like a baby is the new "sexy"
    Ahhh... No

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  17. Who are you to critique what God made? I'd check that ego at the door, so to speak. If you're disgusted by it fine, disgust is a normal human emotion...but no need to turn it into fear, judgement, and hatred. Let women be. Not all men are afraid of the feminine wildness that natural body hair symbolizes to us today.

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    1. "Not all men are afraid of the feminine wildness that natural body hair symbolizes to us today."

      Not all anyone is anything. Do we really still need to keep saying this? Andrew is speaking generally, and from his perspective.

      Andrew, maybe just put "generally speaking" at the end of every post, for the numbskulls.

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    2. Also, finding something unattractive is not the same as fearing it lol. Come on.

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  18. Women shouldn't have to change their bodies for men who are ignorant. You have no right to tell a women what is and isn't acceptable. Get over yourself. If a women wanted you to change your imperfection because they weren't socially acceptable you would probably feel horrible. How about you be a gentlemen and not an asshole. No decent woman would date a guy who put stuff like this on the internet. And by the way the person in the picture is a kid their not old enough for laser, waxing or bleaching.

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    1. Do whatever you want. He has the right to tell women anything he wants. And you are free to not listen. Sheesh.

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  19. I have a mustache and it's very noticeable. I know it, and I do want to take care of it. But I have very sensitive skin and a have allergic reactions to a lot of skin products. Everytime I take care of it, My upper lip gets very red for a day or two. I also have a rash sometimes and the skin gets very dry. I can't apply makeup on it, since it only gets worse.
    So, it's pretty hard to get rid of it. Sometimes people think it's just because you don't care.. But in reality, there might be something more to it.

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  20. The mustache is cute. I'm a man and find this attractive. Someone mentioned that for some of the girls who do have it and know they have it really don't care what others think; I find this quality attractive as well. Is this post some vendetta against upper lip hair. If you don't like it, suck it up. Girls should have to cater to your tastes, they can be beautiful for just being themselves.

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  21. Well said Taylor! I am a guy and I met a very attractive girl once who had upper lip hair that was very visible (even at long distances). She obviously knew it was there and she was confident enough to not bother her. Although at first it was a bit of a surprise, when I spoke to her, I realised that she was a beautiful, intelligent young girl and the "moustache" just became a part of her overall beauty. I admired her for accepting her own appearance and changing perceptions of what society believes what beauty is, instead of changing herself. Some people in this post can take a leaf out of her book. And if I was dating her it would not bother me one bit that she had facial hair.

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  22. To Andrew Aitken: I cant decide whether I'm more appalled by this post itself, or the comments on it, or the utter ridiculousness of this entire blog. I think your opinions are principally conceited, rude, and disrespectful. If you don't like a girl because she has facial hair, then she's lucky to have it because she's protecting herself from someone who hasn't learned what a real woman looks like yet.

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  23. What's creepy is that you have two pictures of little girls on this page to illustrate! Would it've been that difficult to show actual women?

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  24. P.S. The reason women don't know a lot about the male mindset is because they don't have to. Men come after them anyway.

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  25. I think it is better to not focus on the physical traits :-) It will just pass anyway.

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  26. This is really sad. When I see women with mustaches, I automatically think they are cooler. If a woman is that concerned about how men perceive her, it tells me that she is insecure in a sad way. It is a deep hope of mine that women are able to break away from the need for male approval. Sad to see a blog perpetuating the idea that women should look for validation in the physical evaluation from men. Thank goodness there are many men in the world who are in awe of the amazing people women can be beyond their appearance and are attracted to women who are sexy because they are comfortable and confident in who they are and don't need to change tiny "imperfections" to please others.

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  27. I've had this since before the age of 5. I get PLENTY of attention and from men of all races. Only a shallow and immature man will be put off by the natural way a woman or girl looks. It isn't like she grew it intentionally but how she was made. ALL women have this it's just more noticeable on some due to the colour. It isn't like it ever gets longer. Any decent man will love me for who i am not who they want me to be. Anyone else isn't worth the time or attention.

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